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The balls had all penetrated the breastplate, but the plate and the under clothes had slowed the bullet enough that they did not wound him. There is a famous anecdote recorded about Tokugawa Ieyasu, where, after a battle with the Owari Ikki (who were becoming infamous at the time for their use of large amounts of guns), he removed his armor at the end of the day and three arquebuse balls fell out of his under clothes. It depended on factors like armor type, what area of the armor was hit, range, what type of arquebuse had fired the ball, the angle the ball struck the armor at, quality of powder (more or less efficient burning and thus higher or lower velocity), etc.Įven if the armor couldn't outright stop the ball, given range and these other factors, it might slow it down enough to where it didn't seriously wound, or even wound at all. Originally posted by Dan of the People:Isn't expecting armour to hold up against gunfire is a little ambitious? But it's still extremely efficient, if you're a stickler for historical realism. battle timer corresponds to 16 hours of an entire day of engagement irl, then the higher vanilla kill rate over a minute or two (with less volleys) balances out better than it first appears. That's why I don't worry so much about how slow vanilla rank fire can be, because two volleys in vanilla are doing the damage of like 30 good volleys historically, which when you combine with the faster pace of the game, makes more sense than it otherwise would. It was generally understood back then that it took about a man's weight in bullets to kill him. They have a hit rate of around 70% from what I've seen irl when you do the math from documented battle accounts the hit rate was less than 1%. Yeah the kill rate of vanilla arquebuses is way too high compared to history. No wonder armour is close to useless in vanilla Shogun II. Originally posted by Destin Faroda:Vanilla battle mechanics are simply horrible and arcadish.įor example, matchlock arquebuses have a damage value of 2 and 0 spread which means instant death and good accuracy.